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Tuesday, May 24, 2005

Paul "Demo King" Interview from 2003

Paul "Demo King" has been recording demos for many local bands and is a frequent poster on the Factor 9 board. He is also a musician and songwriter. I got some requests to do a 20 Questions with him, so here you go people...

1. How long have you been recording, and what are some of the local bands that you have worked with ?

I have been doing my own recording for probably 10 years... started out buying all the stuff just to get my music ideas down and work with them. Just in the last year did I start to branch into doing it for other people. I did the initial Odesa demo for my old buddy Vic Hillerich for free, as a favor, and I thought it turned out decent. I mean, it was recorded in a living room and bathroom of a house over off Taylor blvd, and came out ok. It got me thinking. Then they decided to give the demo away for free, which means good circulation for a local demo, and since it had my name plastered all over it, that really helped kick things in the ass and get the inquires coming. I started posting on the factor9 boards about doing it cheap, and one thing led to another, and I have recorded 17 bands this year. Aside from Odesa, I've done Transpire, From Within, Ketchup Stigmata, Blyss, Gabalein, Full Tilt, a bunch of others, and I have several coming up in February when the new studio space is completed.

2. What instruments do you play and are you also a songwriter ?

I play guitar mainly, bass, piano, some percussion I can do OK. I could have been a great drummer if I would have had it my way... sigh.... I do write my own stuff, and I have an old song of mine at www.mp3.com/tubetude if it hasn't been taken down yet if anyone wants to check it out. It was recorded about 4 years ago, written about 6 years ago or more, so things have changed some since then. I've become too busy with everyone else's stuff to pay any attention to mine as of late, but that will change soon. One thing some people may find interesting is that the singer in From Within is messing around with some of my stuff. Look for a possible short EP around March or so, if we continue to collaborate. Hell, maybe a full length, if we can pull it off without upsetting his band mates. I really want to learn to play a bowed instrument, like violin, or especially cello. Too cool.


3. You have been around awhile, I know you hung out with Frank Green at some point, were you ever in any local bands that played out around Louisville ?

I have been in several local bands that played around here, but its been a long time now. MY last band was by far the best and tightest band I was ever in, and when we split at 3 years, we had never played a single show. Sad eh? I don't really care to play shows too much, I just like to play. I get a little freaked out. Played a few car shows and I thought I was going to hyperventilate. Ha! Don't get me wrong, I love it and I'll do it in a heartbeat, but I'm just as happy NOT packing all that stuff from place to smoky place and back again. I just like to play, bottom line.
Oh, Frank Green. Well, we never really hung around, exactly. I was in a band with Kenny Hardin (Donnie's big bro, former POA bass player) and John Caudill for about 250 years, and Frank was in Dodge City with the current drummer of Breckinridge. Frank and Scott would come to Kenny's house some time to see us practice, and I think there was a bit of an unspoken rival thing going on there, heh... he and Kenny where more likely the ones to hang out, though. I know (a form of the word "know') Franks wife, so we have at least THAT common ground. We do share a love of vibrating umm, uh, nevermind. Am I talking too much?


4. You are a self-confessed microphone freak, would you give us a list of the mics and all recording equipment that you are proud to own ?

A COMPLETE list? Damn, I'll name a few of my favorites.... I really like Sennheiser anything, and have mostly Sennheiser mics.. I have a pair or MD-441's, the most expensive dynamic mics of time, an MD-421-U-5, MD409, e609 Black, e609 Silver, some e604 tom mics, e602 kick mics... I have a couple Beyerdynamics (my other favorite) but not many of those. My primary vocal mic for most people is a Soundeluxe ifet7, a VERY nice mic indeed. I also have some AKG's. My primary mic preamps as of now are a pair of Great River NV's which are based on old Neve circuits with newer electronics. I would have 20 channels of these if I could afford them, but at $2200 for the 2 channel version, I don't see that happening very soon. Only had it for a week now and the difference is very apparent. Cant wait to track a band with it. Heavy guitars kill through it.


5. You don't think much of the Shure SM57 or SM58 as good vocal mics. What best describes your feelings about the SM58 mic....

1.) It is a good durable "live" mic, not meant for recording for sure.
2.) There are many better mics out today that blow the SM58 away.
3.) The SM58 is too nasally sounding for a vocal mic, and the SM57 might make some girl a nice sex toy, other than that it should only be used for guitar cabs and snare drums.

I think its over rated. Sure it works, its a mic, it passes signal to the next place in the chain, but to me they sound boxy and nasally in COMPARISON to a GOOD mic. I have one. Rarely use it. Out of the list below that you made, I would say all three of them and then some. Its durable for sure. Its just not for me. Bring on the flame war!

6. What famous record producer would you like to hang out with for an entire recording session, to learn recording techniques, see what equipment they prefer, and maybe hit a few strip clubs with at the end of the sessions ?

Hmmm, that's a hard one. Rick Rubin, maybe. Andy Wallace for sure if I could sit through a mix. George Massenburg or Roger Nichols, just for the sheer amount of knowledge I could walk away with. Just so many great guys (and girls, Emily Lazar being one of them, or the chick the recorded the 1st full length Tool album, the one with Sober on it) that I would love to co-engineer, or master, with. Would be very nice indeed. Rick would be a good one for a lot of the stuff I record though, but I don't know how he is as a mixer. Hmmm.... OH, Rick Parashar too. He can get some tones. Brain Melting. Next question.

7. What is your 5 favorite CDs based mainly on production values ?

(Not answered yet)

8. I will list some bands and you rate them on a scale of 1-10. 10 being the
greatest, 1 being the worst kind of suck.

1.) MSD- Not intimately familiar, but what I have heard I say 8

2.) Metallica- Back then: 10 Now: -4

3.) MOV (My Own Victim)- 8, props

4.) Ketchup Stigmata- 8, not the tightest band in the world, but the material
was great. One of my favorite locals, and I find it sad they they are no more.
What a cool voice that dude has.

5.) East146- These guys have a chance at moving someplace, the material is good,
and they are pretty damn young. I give them an 8 too.

6.) Tool- C'mon man.... 10 one of my favs

7.) A Perfect Circle- 9, another of my favs, big Maynard fan

8.) Good Charlotte- 7

9.) Chevelle- 6 1/2

10.) Outspoken- 8, I still haven't heard the whole album yet. Shame on me. That
will be this week's goal, buying that album.

11.) Flaw- 7, but I was digging the demo stuff more than the national release,
personally. Looking forward to the next.

12.) Godsmack- 6, starting to get REAL repetitious


9. Time for the reality show scenario. You are chosen to be on a new reality
show. You will be on a deserted island for 90 days. You get to pick some people
to go with you. You will all get paid a grand a week, so here are some people
really wanting to go. Who goes and who better not.

1.) Travis Meeks- I understand he can be a little cryptic and hard to get along
with, but he would be very conducive to a creative atmosphere. I say yes. Plus
he is loaded so I can keep his $1000 for myself.

2.) Frank Green- Certainly. (note to Frank: bring Nic and Kenny's bass)

3.) Jessica (from Tornacade)- Don't know her. Donnie seems to think she's a good
choice, hahaha

4.) Mark Maxwell - Negative

5.) Mike Winbun - Fun guy, I say yes.

6.) Axl Rose - Ummm, hard to say... I wouldn't tell him no, but I wouldn't go
out of my way to get him there either.

7.) Asia Carrera - Who? :)

8.) David "E' Fraizer - Who?

9.) Dave Wathen - Ouch, two pimps on the same island. Hell yeah.

10.) Rachel Enriquez - Don't know her.

11.) Courtenay Penick - Another don't know her.

12.) Paris Hilton - She'd never find it anyway, fucking dingbat. Lord knows
she doesn't need the money. Maybe she could keep Axl busy when he starts
getting on my nerves.

10. What are your 5 favorite movies ?

Of all time or recently? Of all time:
Silence of the Lambs
Natural Born Killers
Pulp Fiction
Debbie does Dallas
The Stoned Age
LOTR 1 and 2 are killer recent ones. (LOTR ="Lord of the Rings" to all you non-dorks)

11. What band was the biggest pain to record, and what band was the most fun to record ?

Ummm, they are ALL a pain, heh... I enjoy the bands that have a sense of humor.
When I can walk in and ride on your mom and leave on good terms, then its all
good. Most recently the biggest pain has been Blyss, but only because they are
crazy enough to try to do 19 songs at the same time. Mixing is gonna be a
bitch.

12. Which song that you have recorded are you most proud of ?

It would have to be one of my own, as it would be my baby from start to finish, writing it,
arranging, recording it. Its a good feeling to hear something that took so much work and you did it all yourself.
Of another bands, I would have to say there are a couple on the new From Within that I am liking a lot, I think its going to turn out really well. The new Full Tilt stuff is starting to sound really good too. Those guys are an interesting bunch to say the least.

13. What are your pet peeves with bands that you record ? Is it out of tune guitars, worn-out drum heads, worn-out bass strings, singers that can't stay in key, or is there something worse ?

The main thing is when bands aren't ready to record yet. They don't know each others parts, and don't discover til midway through the 400th take of a song that the reason it doesn't sound right is because the bass player is in B, the guitar player is playing in F, and the other guy thinks its G. Then they commence to arguing about what key it is really in. That should have been worked out LONG before I showed up. Another thing is drummers that tap while getting levels, and then POUND as soon as we start tracking, meaning I gotta stop the song and start from scratch. ...Must... Not... Kill..... Drummer...
Impatience is a bad thing when you are recording, too. Take your time and get it right. The next step will come soon enough.


14. I will mention some people and you give your thoughts...

1.) Justin Zero- Talk to him often, met him, been to his house, Good guy by
most accounts.

2.) Rick Parashar- Would love to work with him, or just watch over his shoulder
for a few days. The man can get some tones.

3.) Frank Green- Frank gets lots of mentions here. I say hide the 12 speed
diesel powered sex toys when he's around.

4.) Teague Ridge- Don't know him, but he seems to try to help people out. Or at
least East146. Congrats to him on the whole Breckinridge thing.

5.) Andy Gumm- needs medication. :) Great guy.

6.) Jessica (Tornacade)- Donnie wants her. Nuff said.

7.) Travis Meeks- Donnie wants him too. Ha. Very creative guy, would love to
sit and jam and write with him for a few days.

8.) Rahul Borkar- Don't know him but have talked a few times via email. Very
energetic on stage. Seems to be a great talent.

9.) Dylan Rowe- In an effort to avoid drama, I avoid this one.

10.) Courtenay Penick- Might as well say Muhammed Buhabaleeve.

11.) Dave Wathen- Great drummer, great pimp, cool dude.

12.) Chris Stahl - (no answer yet)

15. What local band or musician would you most like to work with on a full-length cd?


I would like to work with Frank in the near future, and its not entirely impossible. I think it would be fun to work with After The Fall because of their vocal melodies, but it could get tricky real fast if they had any pitch problems that didn't announce themselves until recording. Live they sound great though. Silent Q of course, but they have Ivan, who is a GREAT guy by the way, props to Ivan, and his wonderful wife for sticking by a dedicated musician/PITA for over 10 years. That takes patience. Been trying to snatch up Month Of Sundaze for awhile because I think I could do well with them. That one might actually happen soon enough. Who knows, though. I feel pretty privileged to work with all of the bands this year that I've worked with. Very satisfied. Very fun.

16. What piece of recording equipment would you love to buy that you just can't?

An API mixing desk... for a full featured 32 channel desk you are looking at
over $100,000. All analog, all sweet.


17. What person in the 502 scene do you have the most respect for, and why?

Frank Green- for pursuing and attaining, and never giving up, even though he is over 55 now.
Ryan Murphy for sticking with it for so long, too, even if
it just meant working at a music store for 10 years (just like Frank). Terry
Harper for busting his ass to bring shows, create shows, and for just being a
great drummer in general. I think Eddie deserves some credit, too... he tries
and like everyone else, gets dogged for it and shit on a lot. Andy Foxx. Good job
to all these guys and everyone else that does what it takes. Props.

18. What local band is the most overrated, what band is underrated?

Well, saying a band is over-rated might get me in hot water or on bad terms,
and I HATE drama. As far as under-rated, of the bands I am intimately familiar
with, I would say Dump Gang. Most people around here just cant figure it out
or accept it. It IS some weird ass shit, but I love it. From Within would be
one of them, too, and Blyss may surprise some people pretty soon. I like
Breckinridge, but I think a lot of people tend to find them as over-rated.


19. Who has had the biggest influence on you as a person?

I would have to say my parents, and grandparents. Just for being together
still after all these years, persevering through the hardest of times, and always
coming out on top and still together and still respectable. My grandparents
have been married for over 50 years which just blows my mind.
They should be the trendsetters.


20. What one piece of advice would you give to a local band thinking about
recording a demo?

Be ready. Know your parts, and each other's parts as well. You would be
surprised how often in the middle of a session someone stops and says "why are
you going to E right there?" "I always have, dude" Work that shit out ahead
of time when its not costing you money. Practice it to where you are tight
tight tight and then some more. And that means with yourself, too. If you cant
double your part and make it sound like it wasn't doubled, then you need more
work on it. That, and don't spend a fortune. You don't need to or have to spend a
fortune to get a decent CD.

If you want to contact Paul about recording a demo, visit his web site at demokingproductions.com




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Let's recap...

Paul has recorded 17 bands different local bands this year. That's pretty impressive. He has been recording music for 10 years.

He has 662 post, but doesn't know who Courtenay Penick or Rachel Enriquez are. Courtenay is the Factor 9 message board moderator. (She has 1556 posts.) He also doesn't know who David "E" Fraizer is. (Singer for Outspoken.)

He also pretends to not know who Asia Carrera is. : )

Thanks Paul !

Paul gets 5 out of 5 stars for his 20 Question Interview. êêêêê


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